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Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:29 am
by FarPastGone
Yeah this thing was a huge anomaly in the face of most meteorologists. A local station did some core samples and found that the moisture content of the snow was much higher than initially believed, more like in the 11 to 13:1 range. Thus there is more like an inch and a half or more laying around.

I think Sunday and/or Monday will be the ticket because the gradual warming and cold night time temps like Cowper mentioned.

- Matt

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:53 am
by Cowper
Roger wrote:Can I bring my chain saw? Kim won't let me use it in the house! :twisted:
Well, maybe you're expecting too much there.

I can't USE mine in the house either, but DeBo will let me bring it in and fondle it on the living room floor. (She thinks I'm just sharpening the blade, but it's really a much deeper relationship.)

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:14 pm
by canoe
We are going up Sat am, planning on doing some chainsawing and hoping to paddle Sun. Will post when we get there. Bring your boats and saws. dale

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:41 pm
by Clif
Early afternnon friday in Clinton area... LOTS of melting and runoff
soyano

just got back from up there

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:55 pm
by canoe
See, New bunkhouse at richland. dale

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:30 pm
by canoe
OK, seems that one of the guys bidding on moving the building is set for Tues. I don't think it can happen then, but need to be ready. Help this weekend is a happy thing. dale

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:49 am
by canoe
8in of packed snow with a frozen crust, sunny, 39 degrees at 10:30 am. Should run tommorrow. dale

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:43 am
by canoe
25 degrees and 25in airspace ar 8:30 am. If it goes today, it will have to warm up a lot, and real quickly, possible late this pm, more likely Mon. dale

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:59 am
by panicman
thanks for the update Dale. Thats a lot of airspace to cover when its still below freezing at this time.

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:48 am
by T Yamashita
from looking at the gage, i bet it gets to ~2.5 at 5pm. It may be a good run tomorrow.

:beer: ty

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:29 pm
by lbaker
Cowper wrote:
Roger wrote:Can I bring my chain saw? Kim won't let me use it in the house! :twisted:
Well, maybe you're expecting too much there.

I can't USE mine in the house either, but DeBo will let me bring it in and fondle it on the living room floor. (She thinks I'm just sharpening the blade, but it's really a much deeper relationship.)
OK, I admit to not being on this forum much in the winter (hiking season :wink: ), but I do check it from time to time, and folks like Cowper and Roger never cease to provide me with much needed laughter :lol: :lol: :lol:
They say that laughter helps you live longer, so I say...
Thank you gentlemen :D

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:59 am
by gannon_w
Will it go today? I am in LR and get out of class at 12 :(

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:29 am
by Cowper
gannon_w wrote:Will it go today? I am in LR and get out of class at 12 :(
Dale and Lazer both think it won't happen today, or that if it does it will be a bare-bones bump-down minimum float. They were in the area yesterday and report that much of the snow seemed to be sublimating instead of melting; also, it was a very dry snow and not as moisture-laden as we'd like to see.

Myself and Billy Williams are on "standby", working, but watching the gage.

Right now it is headed down. If it hooks and turns back up, we might go and scrape down because it is too nice a day not to.

I'm taking an older boat instead of my new Jackson, if that tells you anything.

If you want to get further updates, fire a text message to 5zero1-four72-903eight, and I'll text you back if we actually head that way. If it happens, we'd try to set shuttle, you could join us at the put-in.

UPDATE: Wishful thinking didn't pay off; the guru's called it. Gage is still "flatline" at 2.63 on the 11:30 update. Is it possible? I still say "yeah, it would be a good day on the creek", BUT, with so few going, nobody to split fuel with, can keep working and save my vacation hours, I need to wash my hair (how did THAT excuse slip in here???) I think we're going to fold and come back another day.

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:07 pm
by Roger
Face it, folks. We're desperate. Begging for snowmelt in Arkansas for an ELF?!?!?! Desperate I say.

Re: Richland Snowmelt Saturday

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:44 pm
by FarPastGone
I am looking through articles right now because I am kind of curious about infiltration rates and the associated soil saturation of snowmelt. I would think, without reading any of the literature, that gradual snowmelt over the course of a few days would significantly increase the moisture content of soil. Seeing as it is slower and allows for more infiltration.

We should be in a good position for any rains in the next few weeks, dormant vegetation and hopefully super saturated soil will bump up the runoff of any upcoming rain events.

- Matt