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outfitter tents?

Post by RIORESIDENT » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:32 pm

giving thought to a large base camp tent

thought about a canvas wall tent, did some looking and found

this:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ ... id=0005870

anybody have experience with anything like this? im not much of a hook-n-bullet store goer, so any advice will be helpful.

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Post by Randy Dodson » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:49 pm

rumor has it they are top notch.
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Post by okieboater » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:53 pm

no experience with cabela's tents, but have experience with other gear from them. It's been good.

You might look at Eureka Outfitter series - I've had pretty good luck with their awnings etc

http://www.eurekatent.com/pinelodge.asp

Not sure where you can find one these days but back in the late 60's one of my paddling buds had one of the real army style canvas tents. The umbrella semi pyramid style with the awning flap. I remember that thing as being a ton of weight and it took both of us to put it up and take it down. Having said that, we experienced a lot of North GA, North Carolina Smokie's down pours and it always worked. I remember sometimes you would get a trail of moisture down the inside of the tent. Thing was big enough for us to sleep on the surplus army folding cots. We were doing day float trips and camping out of pickup trucks and not doing real float trips, so it was coolers, coleman lanterns, full kitchens etc - lots of fun -- gear back in those days was bomb proof but really heavy.
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Post by RIORESIDENT » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:24 pm

thanks guys!

Okie, that outfittersupply, was just what I was looking for

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Post by robkanraft » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:25 pm

Jeremy, are trying to weigh down that new boat? I love the tradition of wall tents, but I have very limited exposure to them. That said, I think they are probably a lot like my pop-up camper, I loved the idea, but found it a hassle to know I had to put it up and take it down daily when on the move. Maybe I was lazy, but if it was anything less than three days in one place, I got so I took a small tent instead. In a true multi-day basecamp situation, that would be different story. There used to be a campground in the Ozarks that used canvas wall tents like the outfitter style that were pitched for the whole season on slightly elevated wooden platform floors with little wood stoves and they were SO cool!

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Post by RIORESIDENT » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:39 pm

it probably won't be going boating with me, but it will be set up for extended periods of time. mosty spring thru fall, here on my place. I had planned on doing a "deck" like structure for under it, and it will basically be an outdoor sleep room. I thought about building a screen house that would be permanent, but then got to thinking, i could have basically the same thing in a tent, that i could take somewhere else if i wanted to. Depending on how it does being left out all spring /summer/fall, i may decide to leave it up year round.

also giving thoughts to a teepee. I would really like to have a yurt, but they are way out of my price range.
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Post by okieboater » Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:30 pm

Been many years since I got to sleep on a cot in a spacious canvas wall tent.

Hard to beat a canvas wall tent and a cot on a gravel bar on lower Buffalo
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better still a hunting tent in Utah. A canvas wall tent is one of the few tents that can give comfortable shelter in snowy weather.

There are of course mountaineering tents like the north face VE 25 that are constructed from material out of a test tube, but I doubt if people are putting a wood stove in those babies.
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Post by okieboater » Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:34 pm

A teepee would be awesome.

If you could get some one to put some local tribe's designs on it, that would be even better.

I've never camped in a teepee but have talked to several who have and they all report the teepee is a excellent portable structure.

Sam Fowlkes at whitewater-rescue.com has a great teepee there on his property on banks of the lovely Tuckeesiegee River outside Dillsboro, NC which is close to NOC. Go to the URL below to see some photos:

http://www.whitewater-rescue.com/gallery.asp?ID12=107



Sam is a instructor trainer SWR and does clinics there.

If you are ever out there, stop by and chek it out. Sam is a great boater and often teaches and paddles with ACC boaters.
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Post by Dannyboy » Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:35 pm

I have some friends in Marshall that moved to the Ozarks and lived in a teepee for a couple of years while they paid down the land. It had a slat board floor raised up about a foot with a hole in the middle for the fire ring. They would sleep on bed rolls around the fire on the slat floor. I know it collapsed easily for storage and transport, and weighed a lot less than a full on wall tent. I would say the diameter at ground level was about 10 or 12 feet (just guessing) and probably 18 feet high. Real nice setup if you ask me. I can prolly get a phone # or email if you wanted to contact them for details. Might take some time getting that info though (a week or so).

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Post by RIORESIDENT » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:22 pm

DB, some general info would be cool. I have ben doing research, but hands on experience is always better than book learning. (IMO)

one of the things i am confused about is the liner. the liner basicaly went up the walls on the inside, the edges on the ground would be covered with dirt, the liner was attached on the inside of the poles, Vs, the exterior being attached to the outside, and would provide air circulation. My question is how high these liners went. I would imagine they would go about 5.5-6 foot high. all the air below this level would stay toasty warm, while the upper reaches would remain cold. i think that is really smart, and probably didn't come into use for a while.

thanks, see what you can find out. Much appreciated!

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Post by Dannyboy » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:13 pm

I'll get on that . . .

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Post by RIORESIDENT » Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:18 pm

outstanding! and no hurry for sure.

keeep in mind, my place is a full day from ark,( good lay over point) and on the way to COLORADO. so, maybe a few folks other than myself may get to enjoy it!

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Post by RIORESIDENT » Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:40 am

well, after much thought and deliberation, I kinda went away from my intended idea, but it will be good . I think. I found a pop-top camper. I was re-reading your post rob, about the hassle of setting it up, and I have messed with mine for a bit. I would agree that for an over night, or short trip, it would for sure be a hassle, but I also think that for an extended trip, its going to be the cats meow.

Its bigger than I wanted, but I got a ripping deal. Seems as if the new wife, wouldn't go camping in the old wifes camper. So, ol' boy needed to sell the old one, and replace. (both campers, and wives :P )

Its got king beds in both ends, fridge, toilet, shower, awning, screen room that attaches to awning. Ac/ heater, and push-button roof raise.

I had to drive 900 miles to get it, but couldn't find anything even close to it for twice the money.

the cat boat will fit over the top of the ac unit, and I can cam the whole rig down. no need to take the boat off to lift the top.


It won't have the feel of a wall tent or teepee, but neither of them have wheels!

looking forward to taking off.

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Post by okieboater » Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:06 pm

Many moons ago, I got the same type deal on a pop up used one time for a trip to yellowstone from Tulsa. Hubby loved to "camp" wife said no more camping. Hubby saved a lot of money by getting rid of the popup fast.

Francine and I used that little Jayco pop top for several trips to Colorado.

Awesome for the two of us to be on a lake in the Durango CO area in that deal. Had a great kitchen area plus a nice side awning. That area of Colorado has a habit of afternoon down pour rain. Super nice to cook inside on rain or grill outside under the side tarp.

My opinion, park a pop up somewhere around Ruby Mt and you have about as nice a guide shack as there is.

On my little pop up, I got tired of hauling it to Colorado. Francine got rheumthoid artharitis and stopped the camping deal. I started hanging out with boaters who either slept under the stars or tents so someone made me a offer and the pop up found another home.

good luck with the pop up you just purchased. Auto convertible top material is lot stronger than tents and we survived several colorado hail storms in our popup with zero wear issues.
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