Looking for a qualified instructor for private roll sessions. Can go to Fisher Ford, Beaver Lake, NWA site.
Call or Text 479-426-5909.
Private Roll Sessions
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Re: Private Roll Sessions
A Bump to the top and a suggestion you not limit yourself to quote "qualified" help. Their are many unqualified paddlers out here who can introduce you to the proper technique and have you rolling in minutes, if not a day or two. 
BOB
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Re: Private Roll Sessions
Just try making it to the ULAR Pool sessions, normally someone is there that is willing to help, I have not been there lately due to being out of town and have been sick for the past week. But I should be there this week I can offer beginner help. I am in no way shape or form and expert.
--David
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Re: Private Roll Sessions
I know some will dislike what I have to say, but . . .
I have to speak up on this subject. My tongue is scarred enough.
If you want to learn to roll, please find a qualified and experienced person to teach you. That person may not be an instructor at a shop, but they should have taught a good number (over fifty) people to learn to roll. They don't necessarily need to have a great roll themselves. They will have studied not only the roll, but how to teach the roll.
My reasons are below.
1. Those that taught themselves to roll are most times horrible teachers. They only know what works for them. And, what works for them may be entirely wrong. They may muscle through it. Later they, and you, will experience shoulder problems.
2. Teaching a multitude of people to roll (different body types, boats, age, flexibility) will teach you how to address different skill levels. One roll and one way to teach a roll does not work for everyone.
3. Make sure your roll instructor is not ego driven. The goal is to have the student learn some specific techniques based on safety, good mechanics, and attitude. If your roll instructor only wants you to roll as soon as possible, they will short-cut the process and possibly teach you habits that can lessen your chances to do a combat roll, lead to shoulder injuries, or frustrate you later when you are still learning to roll.
4. Learning styles differ. Most people, unless trained otherwise, only teach how they learn. That means unless you learn the same way as the instructor, you are wasting your time.
5. A skilled roll instructor will set you up for success down the line. It takes time for some people to get the very basic ideas of rolling. Relaxing while upside down may take a large portion of the first roll session. It is time well spent. Some people only need a tweak to make their roll bombproof. Knowing what that tweak is takes a lot of experience and an eye for the 'crux' issue.
6. A skilled roll instructor will fine tune your roll. With a trained eye to find the most important aspect of YOUR roll, with the ability to synthesize what YOU need to know, and the ability to put those instructions into a form you can understand, you will become a self-correcting roller.
7. A good rolling instructor is not caught up in a specific roll or way to teach the roll. They are skilled enough to adjust the session to the student. The instructor may even change the specific roll to be taught during the lesson. In the words of Clint Eastwood in the classic Heartbreak Ridge,
improvise!
Yes, I have been a roll instructor since about 1997. I spent a lot of time learning from those that had taught the roll for years. I watched a lot of people teach rolling in different locations, different companies, and different styles. I spent a great deal of time fine-tuning my knowledge and teaching process. I've watched almost all the video that I could, and I've spent a great deal of nights volunteering to teach rolling. I've taught rolling in heated pools, outdoor pools, in the ocean, in a stream, in less than 50 degree water, and in ponds that I'm not sure were very clean.
I have watched people 'help' each other to roll in a pool while I was teaching a rolling class. So many times I have seen people tell the students the exact wrong thing to do. Some of the rolling is counterintuitive and the volunteer instructor did not know what was going on. Sometimes I had to stop them as I was beginning to get sick of watching the travesty.
To me rolling is a very specific skill that, if taught incorrectly, is extremely dangerous. I know almost everyone is well-intentioned and willingly help others. What I'm talking about is not about intentions.
Mark
I have to speak up on this subject. My tongue is scarred enough.
If you want to learn to roll, please find a qualified and experienced person to teach you. That person may not be an instructor at a shop, but they should have taught a good number (over fifty) people to learn to roll. They don't necessarily need to have a great roll themselves. They will have studied not only the roll, but how to teach the roll.
My reasons are below.
1. Those that taught themselves to roll are most times horrible teachers. They only know what works for them. And, what works for them may be entirely wrong. They may muscle through it. Later they, and you, will experience shoulder problems.
2. Teaching a multitude of people to roll (different body types, boats, age, flexibility) will teach you how to address different skill levels. One roll and one way to teach a roll does not work for everyone.
3. Make sure your roll instructor is not ego driven. The goal is to have the student learn some specific techniques based on safety, good mechanics, and attitude. If your roll instructor only wants you to roll as soon as possible, they will short-cut the process and possibly teach you habits that can lessen your chances to do a combat roll, lead to shoulder injuries, or frustrate you later when you are still learning to roll.
4. Learning styles differ. Most people, unless trained otherwise, only teach how they learn. That means unless you learn the same way as the instructor, you are wasting your time.
5. A skilled roll instructor will set you up for success down the line. It takes time for some people to get the very basic ideas of rolling. Relaxing while upside down may take a large portion of the first roll session. It is time well spent. Some people only need a tweak to make their roll bombproof. Knowing what that tweak is takes a lot of experience and an eye for the 'crux' issue.
6. A skilled roll instructor will fine tune your roll. With a trained eye to find the most important aspect of YOUR roll, with the ability to synthesize what YOU need to know, and the ability to put those instructions into a form you can understand, you will become a self-correcting roller.
7. A good rolling instructor is not caught up in a specific roll or way to teach the roll. They are skilled enough to adjust the session to the student. The instructor may even change the specific roll to be taught during the lesson. In the words of Clint Eastwood in the classic Heartbreak Ridge,
improvise!
Yes, I have been a roll instructor since about 1997. I spent a lot of time learning from those that had taught the roll for years. I watched a lot of people teach rolling in different locations, different companies, and different styles. I spent a great deal of time fine-tuning my knowledge and teaching process. I've watched almost all the video that I could, and I've spent a great deal of nights volunteering to teach rolling. I've taught rolling in heated pools, outdoor pools, in the ocean, in a stream, in less than 50 degree water, and in ponds that I'm not sure were very clean.
I have watched people 'help' each other to roll in a pool while I was teaching a rolling class. So many times I have seen people tell the students the exact wrong thing to do. Some of the rolling is counterintuitive and the volunteer instructor did not know what was going on. Sometimes I had to stop them as I was beginning to get sick of watching the travesty.
To me rolling is a very specific skill that, if taught incorrectly, is extremely dangerous. I know almost everyone is well-intentioned and willingly help others. What I'm talking about is not about intentions.
Mark
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