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Need help picking out canoe .

Post by alan72718 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:03 pm

So far only see Mad River and Old Town.
I looked at mad river explorer lt 16 ft at 65 lbs

and Old Town pack at 33 lbs ..

What is there between these two weight ?


I'm 50 and sold my old town discovery at 113 lbs need something I
can handle by my self .

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Re: Need help picking out canoe .

Post by canoe » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:27 pm

What are you planning to use the boat for? Flat water, camping, easy whitewater, etc. dale

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Re: Need help picking out canoe .

Post by alan72718 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:32 pm

touring and maybe over night camping.

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Post by Cowper » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:21 pm

The Old Town pack canoe is a very small canoe, low sides, not very good for long distances and not very good for carrying overnight gear, and not very good for even relatively mild whitewater. What it excels at is being light enough that an avid fisherman can carry it to a remote pond or other location where you can't drive to within a few feet of the put-in.

Wenonah Vagabond (45#) would be better for carrying overnight gear and is a nice touring model for a solo paddler. Wenonah Argosy (47#) would be slightly better if you wanted to run some mild WW too, and is on my "future boats" list.

Mohawk has a number of models; Dave Thomas will chime in on those options. The models I am familiar with are generally a bit more stable and better for WW than the Wenonah's, but not quite as fast for touring/flatwater. It all depends on what you want to "optimize" for. Mohawks are very reasonably priced.

Our best local outfitter (Ouachita Outdoor Outfitters in HS) deals in Bells and Old Towns; I don't know specific model names but both companies have a good range of models to choose from so one probably matches your needs.
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Re: Need help picking out canoe .

Post by alan72718 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:42 am

Great info.
Can't wait to see some these models

Thank you for the great info
Hope see you on water some time in future.

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Re: Need help picking out canoe .

Post by prophet » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:22 am

check Two Brothers Canoes website if you're buying new, local in Arkansas

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Re: Need help picking out canoe .

Post by Dave Thomas » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:08 pm

alan72718 wrote:So far only see Mad River and Old Town.
I looked at mad river explorer lt 16 ft at 65 lbs and Old Town pack at 33 lbs .. What is there between these two weight ?
I'm 50 and sold my old town discovery at 113 lbs need something I
can handle by my self .
Depending on what you're going to be paddling, I have a red and green Nova 16, made with Royalite. They weigh in at 59lbs (approximately). Did you want to stay with a tandem canoe, or would you consider a smaller (13'-14') solo canoe? Either way, I'd be more than happy to custom build a Mohawk Canoe to your specifications right here at the shop in Fort Smith, Arkansas. Email me at dthomas@mohawkcanoes.com and we'll talk canoes and/or set up a date so you can DEMO one of our fine boats to find out for yourself.
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Mohawk says this about the Nova 16:
Fast and sleek with advanced styling .It has one of the sharpest and most efficient entry lines of any Royalex canoe. The Nova 16,with accent lines molded under the deck, is one of our most attractive canoes. A tucked in center section makes solo paddling easier. The flared sides below the tucked in line and the shallow arched bottom give the Nova good initial and final stability.

For lightweight and most canoeing conditions, choose R-84 Royalite. For added durability when the canoe is used in Rocky streams or where whitewater will be encountered, choose the heavier Royalex material. This is one of our most popular tandem canoes. for both wilderness tripping ,touring and general recreation use.

Length:15'11".
Beam at gunwale:35".
Beam at 4" waterline: 35".
Depth at bow:20", at center:14.3", at stern:19".
Weight approx. 59lbs.(Royalite)
Estimated capacity: 750 lbs.
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Re: Need help picking out canoe .

Post by alan72718 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:48 pm

What cost 16 ft

Send info on solo models please .
Do you any used models that rent to test your solo models .

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Re: Need help picking out canoe .

Post by Dave Thomas » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:10 pm

alan72718 wrote:What cost 16 ft

Send info on solo models please .
Do you any used models that rent to test your solo models .
Sounds like you're not sure if a solo or tandem boat is what you want. PM headed your way concerning DEMO canoes.
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Re: Need help picking out canoe .

Post by Jaytee » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:18 pm

You are probably getting all the good help you need already but the two canoes you mention are apples and oranges. One a solo slow/fat water solo boat and the other a moving water tandem canoe.

If you are planning on paddling alone, I think you'll definitely want to look at one of Dave's solo Mohawk's in the 14 foot range. Stable, not too heavy, can handle moving water (and depending on model, even whitewater), and can be loaded and unloaded solo.

There are other solo canoes out there, but it is hard to beat the bang for the buck of going local with Mohawk, and you might even be able to find a blemished boat for additional savings (I bought a solo blem Odyssey from Dave last year).

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Re: Need help picking out canoe .

Post by JasonK » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:55 pm

Those Mohawk Nova 16's are indeed a sweet river ride. I put a couple of days in one solo recently and loved it!
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