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Native ultimite 12
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:17 am
by Dusty Ford
I just joined the forum and like to float fish. Any of you have any experience with the Native Ultimate 12 ? Thanks for any replies. I'm located in Springdale.
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:45 pm
by Louiscov
Dusty:
Welcome to the message board, and even more significantly, to the greatest group of people you'll ever find!!!
You may have googled these, but here's a couple of links to reviews:
http://www.paddling.net/Reviews/showRev ... ?prod=1975" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.georgiariverfishing.com/GAar ... mate12.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Also there's many, many hits on the kayakfishingstuff forum with a subject search on Ultimate 12:
http://www.kayakfishingstuff.com/community/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You'll probably hear a lot of "TRY BEFORE YOU BUY" counsel here, and that is dead on. Most any Arkansas dealer will let you take a test paddle. There are a number of fishermen on the board and you'll undoubtedly hear from others. Also, if you look at boats like Liquidlogic Remix you can fish hard on fishing days plus even overnight, and then play the rapids on paddling days if you develop such an interest. See you on the Buffalo or Kings or Ouachita maybe.
Louis C.
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:51 pm
by Dusty Ford
Thanks for the reply Louis, I have looked at the remix xp 10 and it looks like a good all purpose boat. I kinda think I will lean alot more towards flat water and slower moving streams since I have fished all my life. So fishing will be it's number 1 use but I can also see the thrill and fun of class 2 or 3 water. I just wonder if it will make an adequate fishing boat. The Remix is a boat I've been thinking hard about.
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:28 am
by AR-Nimrod
You might want to take a look at the Native Manta Ray series. Very comfortable SOT's that can be purchased in a fishing config. Very capable boat and extremely comfortable. Also carry a lot of gear if you want to. Daughter has and MR 11, wife has a MR 12 and I wish I had selected a MR 12 instead of my Heritage Redfish 12. Maybe this will help.
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:38 am
by Clif
AR-Nimrod wrote:.... Daughter has and MR 11.....
for now??
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:43 am
by Louiscov
Dusty:
A call to Ouachita Outdoor Outfitters to discuss these boats, their performance and design, fishability, etc. might be a great move. Their number is 501-767-1373 and they have all these boats in stock. I've never been there but ACC members seem to think very high of their knowledge, they're very willing to talk boats, and test paddling is available.
While I've never seen a Manta Ray I love sit-on-top boats, find them marvelously comfortable, and paddle them April - October in Arkansas. Your hips/legs may be wet, but with neoprene shorts and appropriate upper body clothing I've never been cold in a sit-on-top in those months.
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:08 pm
by Dusty Ford
AR-Nimrod, I just tested the Heiritage 12 at Packrat about an hour ago and had made up my mind that it was the boat for me. Very comfortable but I will look at the Manta Ray 12 first. Thanks for the suggestion.
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:48 pm
by Dusty Ford
AR-Nimrod, If you would, give me an idea of what kind of waters you use your MR's on. Flat water? Slow moving streams? Class 1-2 rapids? What are these boats capable of in your opinion? Thanks to all.
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:47 pm
by the wiz
Dusty,
Another option may be either a mohawk solo 13 or 14. both are very stable and would provide an excellent platform for fishing. If you check out the mohawk forum site, there are some great pics of some really tricked out fishing rigs, all of which are solos. If you are in Fayetteville, send me a pm and I would be happy to let you check out the mohawks that I have on my canoe racks.
Wade
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:32 pm
by Dusty Ford
Wade, don't know how to pm but my number is 466-7032. Would like to see the Mohawks, I'm in Fay every day. Let me throw another boat at yall, the Pongo 120, seems like a descent fishing platform and would do well on the rivers. Anybody ever use one?
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:07 pm
by Dave Thomas
Here's a Solo 14 with a fly fishing rig. If you want to see more pics visit the following link:
http://mohawkcanoes.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=223" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:17 pm
by Dave Thomas
No Motor Fly Fishing's site has some really slick looking and effective designs for tricking out a canoe or kayak for fishing.
Take a look:
http://www.nomotorflyfishing.com/rigged_mohawk_canoes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:26 am
by cmartin
i have an Ultimate 12 and love it! paddles fast and tracks straight. I have a 5 yr old and she goes with me sometimes in it fishing and still have room for gear.
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:43 am
by AR-Nimrod
Redfish is very comfortable. That's what sold me on the one I got. It may very well be the boat for you. I have paddled Upper and Lower Caddo, Upper Ouachita, Remmel to Rockport, Spring, Kings, and Buffalo (middle and lower a lot) rivers and a few lakes. It's a fantastic fishing yak. Knowing more about boats, now, I wish I had gotten the Manta Ray. The RF is great for flatwater and Class I water; it's not so good in Class II. It's less manueverable then the MR. So you need to pay attention and anticipate the next move in Class II water. Don't get me wrong I like mine, it's still more comfortable to me than the MR; I just like the MR more because it is a more capable boat for the floating we do. Redfish has great initial stability and tracks great because it has a very flat bottom, almost no rocker at all. The MR has considerably more rocker and a much rounder bottom; it has good initial stability and great secondary stability. It takes a lot of effort to use the edges in the RF but the MR is very easy to edge. If I can find a good used MR the RF will be up for sale. My wife preferred the MR from the start. She thought it was more comfortable than the RF. They are both good boats I just prefer the MR now. Hope this helps.
Re: Native ultimite 12
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:27 am
by okieboater
how does that Solo 14
compare to
a Winona rendezvous
as far as all around floating and tripping ability