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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by Fish » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:30 pm

Roger wrote:Worried about what the FS has to say? Who's going to tell them :poke:
Plenty of evidence here on this thread. I deduce that Mr. Head did it upstream of the green room with a bag of cement!!

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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by Ryan Center » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:36 pm

I did it like this, I did it like that, I did it with a wiffle ball bat!

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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by okieboater » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:10 pm

Jeez, we need a couple days of good ole soaking rain!!!!!

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Roger, I understand

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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by Heath » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:48 pm

Ryan Center wrote:I did it like this, I did it like that, I did it with a wiffle ball bat!
so im on the run the cops got my gun, and wright about now its time to have some fun.

M.C. R.C :lol:

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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by ARzach » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:00 am

Ryan Center wrote:I did it like this, I did it like that, I did it with a wiffle ball bat!
Heath wrote:
Ryan Center wrote:so im on the run the cops got my gun, and wright about now its time to have some fun.

M.C. R.C :lol:
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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by Twindad » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:25 am

OK, so I took off for a few years for kid-raising, and now you guys have gone and dammed up Richland!

Seriously, I never paid to much attention to the rapid names. I think I remember Cindy's Hole, Lower Screw-up, and Maytag. But which one is Roadblock? The only undercut I ever paid any attention to was the right side of LSU (if you screwed-up the boof). Pleased tell me what I should have been scared of!

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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by hdh » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:38 am

The person that did it is the same person that bought alcohol for that kid on the Spring river( Micah Goodwin)..
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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by Twindad » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:14 am

OK, found this thread on Roadblock:
http://forums.arkansascanoeclub.com/vie ... =1&t=11896" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is the undercut where the paddler is putting the stick, or up against the rock in the 2nd pic?

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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by Fish » Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:19 am

Roadblock is a "new" rapid formed by floods in the upper part of the run. If you haven't been on Richland in a few years, you haven't seen it yet. Be heads up and don't count on concrete to save your butt.

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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by ckuntz » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:47 am

Twindad,
Roadblock rapid isn't too complicated of a move and there are options to go left as well, but the approach can be tricky if you flip above. Have seen this happen to several persons. If you miss your roll or swimming out of an open boat the possibility of pinning or going under the upstream facing rock is a high possibility and the site of many close calls..
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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by anthony » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:03 pm

Climbers bolt in routes on boulders.
Mountain bikers shovel and dig the earth for their trails. There is a mentality among these sports that altering mother nature is ok as long as it makes the sport safer-fun. Why would someone not feel it's ok to do the same to a creek as climbers and mtb'ers do for their sport. Just saying that you should try to at least understand why someone would do this.

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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by Twindad » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:47 pm

The picture in ...
http://forums.arkansascanoeclub.com/vie ... =1&t=11896" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
looks like what I remember as "the end of a dogleg to the left at the bottom of a long rock garden." Above Richland Falls. And that recollection is from 1994.

But assuming this is a (relatively) new rapid, for people who haven't seen it: where exactly is (was?) the undercut? Under the boulder in the close-up shot (2nd pic)?

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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by bmartin » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:04 pm

Most of us want to feel we are challenging the wild when we paddle. All of us want to arrive at the take out alive. The top CIV-V paddlers that run things much riskier than road block will likely be on the side of keeping it as wild as possible, sans the trees that block the wild water. Others that are more conservative CIII-CIV types will likely appreciate the added safety at the expense of slightly taming the stream. Clearly there are different camps on this issue and I can appreciate the different perspectives and will continue to look forward to paddling with y'all irrespective of your concrete camp affiliation.

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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by SteveGabbard » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:23 pm

http://boatertalk.com/forum/BoaterTalk/1052296187/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nice. Some idiot posted a link to this thread on boatertalk. :roll:

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Re: concrete put in richland

Post by Roger » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:23 pm

2dad, second picture is undercut and it's underneath the middle of the rock. It comes in above the Green Rock Rapid. The boogie water that comes before the sieve is simply a boulder garden similar to Upper Confluence (before Devil's Fork) except maybe a bit longer. It empties into a small pool that has a decent flow.

As pointed out, be ready to catch the eddy (left is bigger) and then make plans.
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