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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by BooF4FooD » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:01 pm

no no... top layer under dry top... lol.... union suit ... capilene or wool... the drytop... meant would it work as top layer of layering

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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by BooF4FooD » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:02 pm

thanks again lupe... im still waiting on the union suit... should be here any day... looks like a pretty good deal though, yeah?

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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by BooF4FooD » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:05 pm

http://www.immersionresearch.com/produc ... unionsuit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


heres the link for anyone who may be wondering what we are talking about

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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by powrachute_pilot » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:58 am

Can anyone recommend a fairly unbiased website that compares some of the cold weather gear? I also have difficulty deciding between the IR union suit, wool(smartwool, icebreaker, etc.), capilene, polartec, etc., etc. The number of choices for base layer technical wear seems to be the most confusing aspect of choicing cold weather boating gear for me. Thanks
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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by Jeremy M » Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:20 pm

I'm not sure about a concise website for that information, but will tell you that even under a union suit, I would wear some type of moisture wicking/moisture transport base layer, such as capilene. Your synthetic baselayer, IMHO, is the most important piece of the puzzle. I've used capilene and others, such as under armor, etc... To me the capilene is heads and shoulders above the rest, with regard to wicking and transport of moisture and odor control. For paddling gear, anything that can handle the funk factor, gets my vote. Capilene also doesn't use silver thread for its odor control, because silver ion, is a heavy metal and an environmental contaminant. I've had a pair of Cap 3, thats going on its 8th season of use, for not only paddling, but hiking, fly fishing, etc...

After that then your midlayer, which would be your union suit or polartec fleece. If using a drysuit, the union suit, just makes sense because there are no gaps between tops and bottoms.

just my 2 cents...
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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by Crane » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:37 am

For cold weather paddling, for about 5 or 7 years I've worn a heavy, stretch polar-fleece "union suit" that looks like a farmer john, has two zippers on the front for easy access, and a drop seat... that I've never had to use. I think I saw one on line over the holidays on a skiing site... It works very well under my drysuit. Jeremy is right that adding an under-layer of capiline is a better idea. I also add a heavy Patagonia capiline top I've used for probably 15 years... Smartwool socks on the feet in GoreTex booties sown to the drysuit and a pair of neoprene paddling boots finish it off... unless it's really cold, and then there'll be another fleece top under the drysuit. I always carry a fleece cap to add under my old-fashioned full foam-lined helmet. I just bought a stretch balaclava that works great for sleeping out, but haven't used it on the water, yet. I think it might help with wind chilling some areas...
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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by BooF4FooD » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:14 pm

duuude, just got my ir union suit in and it is freakin sweet... i didnt even know it was made with polartec...its super warm, had to take it off in the house cuz it had me sweating my butt off.... not sure i would want to wear something under it cuz the fleece lining on the inside is super comfortable... may just get a fleece vest or something to go over the top...

also, i got my 0 degree player and i cant wait to try it out... seems like it is going to relieve lots of stress of the forearm... dunno... my dry top n bottom will be here tomorrow, so looking to get back on the river... see yall soon...

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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by Clif » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:55 pm

hmmm :idea:
You sure this is on the right channel?

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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by Roger » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:10 pm

Now this is a good topic to Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Gee, what would you wear in Arkansas with teen temps and cloudy skies? Let's ask these guys (check the weather they are paddling in!).

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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by RomanLA » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:22 pm

I like that capilene comes in different thicknesses too. This fall I started with just capilene 1 under my dry suit. Then I slowly worked up to various combinations of capilene 1, capilene 3, and fleece. If I'm in a place that a swim is unlikely, I usually use a step down on my lower layers. That way my top is a little warmer for splashes and rolling, but I'm not uncomfortable inside my boat.

p.s. I wouldn't mind having a union suit, but I tuck my capilene shirt into my pants and I've never had a problem with a gap.

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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by okieboater » Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:11 pm

At one time, we had a very good discussion of winter paddle gear on this board.

If anyone with a better memory than I have can remember and find that thread, it covers just about the universe of cold weather outfitting.
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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by Fish » Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:32 pm

Need to put this thread in the FAQ for sure.

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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by SteveGabbard » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:00 am

http://www.lochsaconnection.com/stretchleaf.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I am considering one of the union suits shown in the link above.

As far as shoes, I bought some of the Stohlquist Caveman booties at OOO. The size 12 fit in my 4fun no problem. The have a very aggressive sole but are very flexible. They are so far the most comfortable paddling shoes I have worn.

There was a similar discussion on boatertalk recently. Here is the link

http://boatertalk.com/forum/BoaterTalk/1052132245/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by c8mb » Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:27 am

This was a case of be careful what you wish for, but I own one of these and its actually quite toasty in this igloo I live in...

http://www.snugasabug.com/dropseat.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Cold Weather Gear

Post by SteveGabbard » Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:04 pm

c8mb wrote:This was a case of be careful what you wish for, but I own one of these and its actually quite toasty in this igloo I live in...

http://www.snugasabug.com/dropseat.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Do you wear the bunny ears on the inside or outside of your helmet?

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