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Breath underwater?

Post by happy happy happy » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:26 am

Opinions! http:/www.abovetopseceret.com fourm/ thread 992866/pg1.

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Post by paddledog » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:52 am

Above top secret, wasn't aware that site still existed. If it's anything like it was a decade ago, it's not a reliable source, the site is like 95% conspiracy theorists and people trying to hoax alien/bigfoot sightings.

The design seems improbable unless the process requires virtually no energy. The battery size is tiny, and battery technology is not at a point where we can simply make small batteries that also have large capacities.

Try this.....http://gizmodo.com/5921868/scientists-i ... -breathing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Breath underwater?

Post by happy happy happy » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:13 am

I agree with that. But it would be cool. A stiff garden hose,air bag (foaltion)does and has worked for me in the past.
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Post by okieboater » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:29 am

WOW, thanks paddledog for the URL on injectable Oxygen. This could well be life saving even more if it can be modified to use in the field example scuba dive boats, EMT, Fire and Rescue units.

As a person who is here today due to CPR from near death drowning, I can attest to the fact something like this injection is a good deal.

My experience was after my bud's got me back breathing and moving around they took me to the hospital.

The medical team stretched me out like a capital T, stripped me down and attached more devices than I can recall plus pumping oxygen into me big time.

One thing I remember is they took blood samples from veins (not arterial blood) like ever 45 minutes all night monitoring the oxygen saturation - I was told. All I know is that needle went in deep and hurt enough to wake me up. I was spread out with all these cords and tubes all night and every time I would doze off, it was time for a check by multiple nurses. Some times next morning things got better and most of the machines were taken off. Thanks to my boating buds actions and a great medical team I got over the experience except for some lung problems including Asthma. Inhalants, pills and breathing machines continue to take care of that well.

I think a oxygen injection would have helped me big time not to mention others with lung issues.

The more I read about stuff like this the more I appreciate Medical Science here in the USA.
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Re: Breath underwater?

Post by happy happy happy » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:17 pm

Thanks,David
I remember in76? at NOC holding a floation bag for man to breath. If this is not sci-fi or a conspiracy. I would like to see one come to use for safety .But time under water life is short as long as you can hold your breath. Or have some help. Before you black out and after hope someone on top knows what to do. One of my exercises for paddling is practice holding my breath when taking a.bath.

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Post by okieboater » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:56 pm

You are correct in that the time is short without fresh air.

I had been boating for a long time and had trained myself to hold my breath I thought.

In my case, things just went blank and I was out until the CPR got the lungs working.

I have often wondered about the air bag deal or some variation, which I think might work for some one pinned. Seems like I read some studies and the size of the tube was a problem.

In my case I was passed out upside down and they had to get the kayak to shore, go under themselves and pull me out and get me on shore totally lifeless body was very heavy to deal with they said.

I talked to a friend of mine Phil DeRheimer who was pinned for a long time down in Ecuador. From above he was totally under water. But there was a plume of water over his head forcing his head down to the kayak deck and he could get some air. He could not move and several attempts failed to work. Finally a throw bag full of rocks hit him across his arms. some how he got the throw bag attached to his PFD rescue cowtail biner. His wife Mary along with others then pulled him up and out.

Bottom line for both cases, don't give up. Like my SWR IT Wayne Sunmacher had to say, you are not dead till you are back in the hospital warm and dead. or words to that effect.
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Re: Breath underwater?

Post by Cowper » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:23 am

happy happy happy wrote:Opinions! http:/www.abovetopseceret.com fourm/ thread 992866/pg1.
The link to your human gill device for breathing underwater is messed up, but I was able to find the article on the abovetopsecret.com website. Based on a few minutes of additional google research and tracing some of the other sites that mention this device, it appears to be a design concept coming out of a third year technology institute design class. It uses a mixture of things that exist, and some that are expected to exist in the future, to design a new product. One key element appears to be a “next generation” battery (in other words, a battery we HOPE will be invented in the near future) that packs more power than anything currently available, so Paddledog was on track with his observation. There is no evidence that I could find anywhere that a portable device of this type has actually been built and proven through testing. They are right about one thing – if they can build it, they will sell them like hotcakes.
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Re: Breath underwater?

Post by Ouachitoff » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:09 pm

I would think the limitation is still the power and water speed necessary to convert enough air to keep you going. Plus you'd need a mixture suitable to be absorbed by your lungs. it's a cool loooking concept, but unfortunately still just a neat drawing at this point.
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