Info wanted on Northern arkanasas and south MO runs please

[ebell]

it seems like I drive a while to reach most of my runs and as it turns out southern MO is not much futher than any other runs.

So if you have any info on runs like bear creek, roark, etc i would be interested in that info.

Would like to know put in and take outs, usgs guage, and what are good levels based of the guage.

Thanks
eric

[Owl]

You could also post your question on the Missouri Whitewater Association site.

http://missouriwhitewater.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Mike_P]

Eric,

Check this thread out. There's a couple guys you may want to PM. Mike

http://forums.arkansascanoeclub.com/vie ... ear#p74851" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[perspective7]

Here is another post with some info on some Missouri runs...some of the same stuff as the other posts but different info. Dan seem to be da man for Southern Missouri runs!

http://forums.arkansascanoeclub.com/vie ... =1&t=15860

http://forums.arkansascanoeclub.com/vie ... =1&t=12974


There aren't many gauges on the good creeks around here except for Bull which is pretty fun @ 2500cfs & up -- 3500-even better. The lowest I've floated Bull was 1150 cfs. Swan and Roark have no gauges. There is a Bear creek with a gauge in MO, but I'm not sure if it's the one they are talking about in the posts.

Click on the Pix section on my post and check out the kayaking folder for some pix from Bull creek and a couple from Roark.

[DanMo]

I have got a busy day so I might be able to get more in depth later. Looking at a little chance of rain coming so I am keeping my hopes up.

The best way to see if our runs are up is a radar overlay on google earth. Also if people have your number you will get a call.

Thanks

Dan

[DanMo]

Bull creek
36.906163,-93.137864 park here 36.908796,-93.137886
Private, no access 36.875065,-93.155916
36.78603,-93.174584 Round mountain low water bridge, parking
36.750483,-93.172867 Colliseum AKA shady rapids, private need permission to drive down, popular play spot
36.731878,-93.192866 Public access best rapids upstream, usually best trout fishing downstream.
36.713338,-93.203766 Private park public ok to access

Swan creek
36.967754,-92.952142 also many more options upstream
36.949886,-93.010631 not much parking room limit number of vehicles
36.903023,-93.008893 limited parking
36.870165,-93.008028 not sure but I think this is the play ledge at the wrangler camp
36.834866,-93.018476 park on south side of highway
36.787203,-93.058953 put in for normal run best rapids downstream
36.740936,-93.091539 access. bridge can be run at around 10,000 cfs and up
36.706828,-93.096644 MDC access caser rd play waves just upstream
36.684756,-93.10495 shadow rock park access

Bear Creek (Taney CO)
36.780075,-93.258112 access. Limited parking, monster wave at big levels
36.777687,-93.24894 be careful about this slab, portage left or run after scouting
36.768838,-93.222474 access
36.748376,-93.201225 wrecking rocks, scout
36.748376,-93.201225 big wave here
36.73165,-93.19312 takeout for bear, paddle up bull a short ways
Busiek area fun when water is big
36.86337,-93.231408 nice little 4 ft ledge roadside
36.856434,-93.226212 nice little rapid , but don’t go through the tunnel or you will have to hike across 65 hwy
36.862065,-93.225285 put in to run woods fork
36.884292,-93.221946 upper put in woods fork
Roark creek
36.650167,-93.240507 stockstill takeout
36.662693,-93.26654 charcoal plant access
36.683661,-93.287575 MDC access
Turkey creek
36.540271,-93.215139 put in might need high clearance vehicle
36.549787,-93.199689 put in here if you have a car that can’t get down sandy lane Scout the tunnel! I have not put in here
36.624678,-93.215679 take out
Cane creek
36.682967,-92.982247 Take out
36.653242,-92.960883 put in
36.634132,-92.92595 put in

Other
36.967597,-92.990735 roadside 10 footer on public land needs lots of water

Plus lots more options when time allows. All of our stuff needs rain just like everywhere else, but the season is just about ready to begin.

A big lower swan creek is some mighty big water, 30,000 cfs is not unusual and a good run. cane, turkey, bear have much less volume.

Dan

[ebell]

Thanks for all the info. Danmo

Its about 1.5 hr to Branson from my house, but would like to give those runs in that area a shot.

please call me sometime

eric bell
479 301 8745

[DanMo]

you are welcome Eric.

Also I want to say that by no means am I "the man" as lots of boaters are better than me. I just like to tell people about our runs and share them.

What are the creeks like? Most of them are ledgy. they don't have huge gradient but they carry a pretty high volume. The ledges make nice waves and a few holes, but it is mostly safe.

If we have an area wide rain and you live in arkansas, you will propably want to stay there. Heck I am probably on my way down there too. The whitewater is better there. But if it rains here and not there, come on up. We have easy shuttles, you can buy alchohol anywhere, even sunday. Twice last summer we had big rain events that got everything going in taney county but not farther south.

Except for bull creek at the colliseum, you probably will never see another boater.

Looks like we missed our chances for rain this weekend.

Dan

[perspective7]

Dan, have you ever ran the Woods fork down to Bull, and can you takeout at Saddlebrooke? I've wondered about the creek there at Busiek for a long time and I think I'll try the Woods fork all the way to Walnut Shade next time there's enough water.
The ledge at the Bar-K Wrangler camp is hard to catch at the right level. It can be surfed but it's not that great. When the water is high it gets washed out and there is just a wave in the middle and the rest is pretty flat.

[Sparky]

I've run Woods Fork from Busic down to Walnut Shade on Bull Creek years ago. Best take your fishing pole for this one.
Brent

[DanMo]

Seth

You can run woods fork to saddlebrook and take out there. Technically you are supposed to have permission, which I do since I have relatives living there. I think Clive the developer is under a lot of stress, so he is a little erratic. If you want to use saddlebrooke as an access, give me a call or go low profile.

Lots of trout in this creek. Not really a whitewater run even when it is big. But if you get on and it is really brown it will be exciting.

The little creek going by the road through saddlebrooke is really fun, but I have only run it once. I don't know what clive would think of me running it again, he seems to be in a completely different mood everytime I see him.

Dan